Ok, I put this on the last blog, but am also putting it on here to make sure all see it. Some are on here, others are still on there. Hope this covers all bases!!!!!!!

Ok, I posted PICS of My kids' yard sale on my facebook. Find me at Margaret Rivas and look at photo's and comment. Maybe that will get my friends jumping on the bandwagon and helping!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Alexis is wearing, NO SUPRISE, her Tears For Fears shirt. She wears it as much as she wears her Twilight shirts!!!! (gets more attention when wearing her TFF shirt, of course, people are shocked and suprised that she is wearing a TFF shirt. They think it is vintage, she happily tells them of their NEW plans and concerts. She is like a little Arlene!!!)

They just sold their pool table for $10.00!!!!!!! It might not seem like much, but to these 4 kids, it got them excited and set to make more for gungi. I am lucky to be these kids' mom!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is anyone going to the show in Phoenix?

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Margie - I'm sure we all have stories like yours. It's why we're TFF fans.

And I do know the depths of the grief of losing a baby mid-term (for eit was a daughter at 17 weeks gestation). It's something that makes it hard for others to understand - only we got to know that little person.

I have a TFF fan too - my 10 year old daughter. She's miffed that she can't go to the GVR show with me (at least I have the over 21 excuse - not to mention the cost...) Looking forward to seeing everyone in a few weeks - Kim and I will have more concrete info about the pre-show dinner shortly!

EZEZ
Suzanne Olden

My earliest memory is when I was 11, my uncle died. The adults were too involved in the business of death and their own feelings, I was sort of forgotten. It was the first time, someone I loved had died. I was hurt, confused and alone. I acted out in school to deal with the pain. No one realized.
My friend Jill Andazola gave me a cassette in school. She said it might help. The moment I heard it I was hooked. I felt as if these men were singing everything I was thinking or feeling.
When EWTRTW came out, I was even a bigger fan. I was a curt girl then. LOL. Then shout and head over heels soon followed. I fell over the moon for Roland by then. Those eyes, and maybe that mullett type hairdo. I didn't know it then, but maybe it would be now. LOL. With every new record or cd I was a fan and would buy. To date, I have bought several of EACH record. I NEVER got to see them in concert. My dad, a correctional officer, somehow thought I would do drugs at a TFF concert.
Although The Hurting remains ONE of my favorites, in part, because the songs, to this day are sooooo awesome. ALso, though, Jill gave it to me and she died in 2001. I did get mayfields cds and TFF without Curt, however it really isn't TFF without the 2 of them. You know. But I have them all. Even the CD single of god's mistake and creep. I still have the vinyl records of songs from the big chair, which alexis sort of has. I also had like 20 buttons that got lost last year, and, a calendar from 85 I think Alexis has swiped.
When my son's heart stopped beating while I was almost 6 months pregnant, you don't know the depths of grief there are. But, my family used TFF to bring me back out. 4 years later, I was using TFF while having Alexis in the hospital. I knew, that whatever pain I would have, as long as I had a cd player and my TFF music, I would be fine.
Alexis was BORN a fan. They ALL were born fans. My adopted kids, Tyrone, Kurt and Alexis WARNER know TFF. Even my 3 year old Hannah, sings shout sometimes out of nowhere. And, Heaven's forbid we hear it out and about, they will sing it loud and proud. No matter who stares or watches.
They LOVE TFF. All 7 of my kids. (Only 4 biological though)
Alexis was lucky enough to go with me to the 2007 humphrey's by the bay concert in san diego. She not ONLY DANCED ALL NIGHT, BUT SHE SANG ALL THE SONGS ALL NIGHT. I saw people amazed how little she was and what she knew. She and the others are my little TFF OOBER FANS.
The one thing that sticks out to me, is curt in the video of shout. I remember seeing him with those little girls and the kids, thinking, "wow, look how he is with those kids. He is going to be an excellent father." I also knew his kids would be good looking. With such a handsome, Beautiful face, how can he not have beautiful kids. Guess what? I was right. I am so glad that I am able to see my prediction LONG AGO come true. (And I dont mean beautiful in the feminine form of the word. There's just no other way to describe the perfection of his features, In my opinion, than with anything less.)

My earliest memory of Tears For Fears was when I was watching a show called the Great Record Album Collection in 1983 at the age of 7, I don't know if anybody remembers that show, on weekdays and seeing at least one Tears video.

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"I was her age when I carried my TFF folders amongst ALL the other students who majority had DURAN DURAN folders or Simon LeBon folders. I had my TFF proudly, among other fans."

I love that! Yeah, Duran Duran were like the big hot stuff guys...all makeup and fluff, but no substance! TFF were the real deal man. I wish I could have been older to do that and be all awesome 80's girl having a good time. I am so envious of people who really got to live in that era! My cousin who just turned 40 saw the lads at Jones Beach back in the day, and I couldn't tell you how jealous I got...:) But I feel I have a cool connection in that I was a growing seed of love during the huge TFF 1985 tour haha...and popped out in November :D I like to think how I was born during their banner year hehe...

I am glad to hear that your Nana is back home today, Margie.

My Nana is FINALLY home today. A very LONG 3 days. (For those of you who are interested) I MISSED ALOT, I am in NO position to judge anyone. I was NOT hard on claire and understood where she was coming from. I can also understand Curt and others feelings as well. I have been on the recieving end of some harsh words. I cried so bad, calling Jaynie and Unable to talk. It does hurt and even more when It is a sort of idol you look up too, especially as a fan of TFF, when you feel you have angered or upset Curt. I can understand that feeling cause I made HUGE mistakes AFTER my tata died. Mistakes I would NOT have made if I wasn't going through the emotional strain I had. It is a HORRIBLE feeling. I've made apologies to those I have hurt, even though it wasn't really accepted, either way, I apologized. I was a better person for it.
But you know, Katy. Please tell Claire, that I came back. I dusted myself off and came back. And you know what? Curt, Suzanne, You, gabby5 and OTHERS, alot of others have made me feel welcome here. Now, I do feel I can share whatever is happening. Curt, who could really have deleted me from his site here as I am from his Myspace, DIDN'T. He is also a wonderful man and has forgave my moment of madness and has let it go and has still treated me with kindness. That speaks alot about him.
I will NOT let my babies sell their treasures. I will NOT let anything happen to these kids that I LOVE to the depths only parents could understand. I will of course help her in any idea she has.
She is 11. All she knew was that Gungi is still sick. She didnt care how or why, just that he still needs help. That is ALL that matters to her. Arguing, blaming, mean talk. All that NEVER entered her mind or even a thought. She doesn't care what we do on here. ALL she cares about right now, is HOW, at age 11, can she help Gungi. She has NEVER met him. NEVER met Roland. ALL she knows is that Curt, who she feels DEEPLY CONNECTED TO AND DEFENSIVE OF, was asking to help if you can. That is ALL she needed to know. Is that Curt is supporting it and she is on board. Besides that though, it is a person in need of help and she is young, but she knows anyone, no matter the age, can make a difference.
She would think this is all silly in the grand scope of things. She is right. I am not feeling bad she wrote. I dont feel sorry at all. It raised awareness. Maybe ALEXIS will help make other adults help. That is the important thing. If you can help, help. If not, spread the word. My children, are STILL trying to figure out how they can help. I will back them up and try to help as well.
Curt, Suzanne, Katy, Claire, Gabby, Arlene, Alison, and all who come on, I do have friends and family who think NOTHING but very HIGH thoughts of me. But, this site and those on it are also important to me too. It keeps me close to those who feel about TFF the way that I do. It gives me an outlet to meet others that before I never could have connected to. I thought I NEVER would have come back on. I swore it. Now, I can't imagine being away.
It will get better for claire as well. I promise you.
Margie
PS. I have a signed autograph on a backstage pass signed by Roland and a concert ticket signed by Roland, and a concert ticket signed by Curt. I gave this treasure of MINE that means ALOT to me, to my kids to try and sell if we can. Besides, it is only paper, I still have the memory etched in my mind and heart. If that can bring money to my kids to feel they are helping Gungi, than I have no qualms about doing so. So, GRUNO, if you can, contact me and I will give you said stuff, for GUNGI, FROM MY KIDS WHO WANT TO HELP SO BAD.
Thanks.

I've just recently browsed some of the posts here and while I know I'm not the most active poster on this site, I felt compelled to share my thoughts. It truly saddens me to hear about Gungi's situation. I have met Gungi twice and while I don't really "know" him, both TFF shows I've been were made that much more special because of his involvement, for instance in '04 when he let me take the lift to the street with him and Charlton in Minneapolis because I couldn't figure out how the hell to get out of the venue!

There was also the Costa Mesa gig in '07, which as most of you probably know was the benefit gig. I wasn't sure if he was going to be there at all, let alone manning the soundboard. But there he was, looking happy and healthy. I talked to him that night after the show and mentioned how inspirational his story was considering I've know several cancer patients, many of them close family members, who sort took that traditional route of treatment and, from what little I knew, he was doing something a little different, which took what I believe was a lot of courage on his part (but I can't speak for him, obviously). He had mentioned that he was getting better though it had clearly been a difficult few months, but he seemed very happy to be back at work. He then brought us (my then-girlfriend came along) back to the after show "Grip n' Grin," (politely) scolding a security guard when she questioned him why he was bringing two awkward Midwest-Yankees backstage (if I remember correctly, it was something to the effect of "Don't bloody worry about it, they're with me!" though I may have heard him wrong). He brought us back there, went and found us some VIP badges, said, "Have fun!" and went off take care of other business. The atmosphere that whole show was truly electric and it was a great night for a great man.

Two years later, it's hard to learn that his condition has worsened. I'm sort of rambling here, but I just hope that everything works out for Gungi. Perhaps it's slightly selfish of me, but I'll really miss not seeing the big guy around at the show in Vegas next month since he's been a part of every TFF gig I've ever been to. That's going to suck, quite frankly, especially knowing what he's going through while he is away from being on the road. I only hope that he is able to spend more time with his family and friends in the meantime. We'll drink to him tonight and I hope that most of us can continue helping him and his family out anyway we can.

-Stevey

Thank you, Celeste.
I will see Claire tonight at our local Ox-Roast Fundraiser, and will pass it on to her.
It's very nice of you. I'm sure it will make her feel better.
Katy

Claire always logs on from my computer because she doesn't have one of her own.
Jenny is my sock puppet, but "she" didn't have any part in this. Satisfied?
And I see that anything else I might have to say will be censored.

*Now could Sybil please leave the room! I don't find this in the least bit amusing.*

Well, dear ~

Neither does the very real, living, breathing, long-time devoted and supportive fan...

"Angie".

Going to add my two cents in here, just because I want to. I don't care about hurting anyones' feelings, this is too important for me just to lurk and not respond. Curt, if I am out of line, or if you feel that what follows may start some stupid flame war, I don't mind at all if you delete my post....but at least I have had my say.

I won one of those auctions of TFF's items for Gungi last week (and I have won some in the past also). Yesterday, I got the item I won in the mail, a beautiful photo of Curt and Roland, signed...and it wasn't one of those 8X10's either, it is a unique item, and there are not lots of them out there. But the desire to own that picture was not the reason I put in a bid.....I have other items that Curt and Roland have signed.... pictures, CD's, DVD's, a drumhead, etc., so the fact that the picture was signed was not my motivation, there are other auctions out there that offer signed items by Roland and Curt. I bid on THIS item because I know that Gungi will get my money. The person who put it up for auction could have posted an auction for Gungi that featured a used kleenex that Roland blew his nose in and I would have bid on it.......not because I desire to have Roland's snot rag (YUCK), but because I know that Gungi would get the money I spent on it. I put in the bid I did because I KNOW that the money I spent will go directly to Gungi, I KNOW that the person offering up the items for auction will see that the money will go directly to Gungi. Curt would not have posted a link to the auctions on his site if he did not totally trust the person offering the items and if he was not 100 percent sure that GUNGI would benefit from the proceeds.

Just because that website concerning Gungi and his problems has not been updated in a while does not mean that Gungi does not still need help. How many websites on the vast Internet are not updated on a regular basis? Millions, probably. But so what? It doesn't change that fact that Gungi is still sick, and he and his family are in a very bad place right now and need all the help they can get. I, for one, don't need a continuous update on Gungi's condition on a website, I know that he is in need and much loved...I know that he has a family and he and his family are going through things that I would never want anyone I love to go though. If Curt (who KNOWS Gungi) puts information about the auctions on his personal website, and if Gruno (who KNOWS Gungi) puts those auctions up, mails the items out, etc....then that is good enough for me. I have never met Gungi, don't know the man or his family, don't have any details about his medical condition or what his finances are, don't know anything about what he or his family are going through. I don't need any of that. I just know that a fellow human is in need and I have an opportunity to help....and I trust the people who are spearheading the effort to help him.

The 50 bucks I spent on this last auction may not be a whole lot of money but at least I know I did something for Gungi and his family....I know with all my heart that Curt, Gruno, and all involved will see to it that Gungi gets that 50 dollars. Who knows...maybe that small amount of money can get something Gungi and his family need...something to ease his pain, or maybe some groceries, or maybe it will go towards utility bills. I don't care how the money is spent...it is for Gungi.

People can talk all they want about hurt feelings, but I think that what Gungi and his family are going through is a hell of a lot worse then a person having hurt feelings caused by words posted on a website. What Gungi is going through is called REAL LIFE and we as fellow humans can either step up and help, or we can pout and lick our wounds and whine that our feelings are hurt because other people disagree with us. Any disagreement that happens on this website is NOTHING compared to what Gungi is going though. It's called perspective and it would be nice if more people had the ability to recognize what it is.

The above is what I feel about this situation and I honestly don't care if anyone reads it or what they think of it.

Carolyn

I have to disagree with Suzanne's assertion that "we all feel comfortable sharing here." Obviously some of you do, but not all, by a long shot.
A lot of people don't feel comfortable here anymore. Claire doesn't feel
comfortable here anymore. Neither do I, but I had to come back and say
something. Someone has to say something.
Celeste, DROP IT. Despite your "not trying to stir anything back up" statement, you keep doing that. Claire was not trying "to speak for Alexis." I don't know where you got that. You keep trying to make her post into more than it was. Every one of you missed the whole point and tone of that post. Claire was expressing her concern about the auctions based on information she heard about one auction. She expressed concern about the lack of updates on Gungi's site. She never said Alexis shouldn't try to help people, in fact she made suggestions on how she could. She just expressed her opinion that kids selling their treasures might not be the most effective way to help. And yes, if she'd thought harder about it, she would have realized that Curt wouldn't give space on his site to a bogus charity. But that was her big mistake, and instead of a gentle (or even firm) assurance that of course Gungi's cause is legitimate, Curt decided to take offense and told her to "take her vitriol elsewhere." That wasn't enough for him, so he made that statement about "having to defend Gungi and the insurance industry's refusal to pay his medical costs." Where did that come from? Not from Claire's post. And the rest of you followed his example and crucified her for a thoughtless remark. Or "tactless" as Celeste keeps pointing out.
Suppose all of you were so angrily treated every time you made a mistake?
There was no "vitriol" in her post. None. Curt and the rest of you supplied that. I know Claire very well. She is a kind and generous person. And she is
devastated by the treatment she's received here. I know how she feels. I've been branded, I realize that. I should have warned her not to post anything here.

And why is it no one has answered any of Angie's questions about Gungi?

Good idea Margie. Alexis doesn't need to know that Curt got upset. I've really been trying to understand why tactfulness was lacking on Claire's part. It's not her place to speak for Alexis. She speaks for herself and she does that very well as made evident by her last few posts.

Tell her that if she wants to raise money for Gungi's health care fund then she should do it. I really wish a lot more parents raised their kids well the way you have. :)

I found this song by Crosby Stills and Nash that pretty much sums up the way I feel. :)

Teach Your Children Music Video

Take care.

Celeste.

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